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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmoms.com/2009/10/29/ask-harriet-why-two-flu-shots/comment-page-1/#comment-3147</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine, I wouldn&#039;t worry.  Ask your doctor, but I can&#039;t think of a reason that an extra shot would hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine, I wouldn&#8217;t worry.  Ask your doctor, but I can&#8217;t think of a reason that an extra shot would hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: christine metzner</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmoms.com/2009/10/29/ask-harriet-why-two-flu-shots/comment-page-1/#comment-3140</link>
		<dc:creator>christine metzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi...
my son whos 7 months old, got the 2 shot seasonal flu cocktail, then was to get the h1n1 shot... instead they gave him a 3rd seasonal flu shot by mistake...  should i be worried?? what effects could this have on him... 
thanks
worried mom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi&#8230;<br />
my son whos 7 months old, got the 2 shot seasonal flu cocktail, then was to get the h1n1 shot&#8230; instead they gave him a 3rd seasonal flu shot by mistake&#8230;  should i be worried?? what effects could this have on him&#8230;<br />
thanks<br />
worried mom</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmoms.com/2009/10/29/ask-harriet-why-two-flu-shots/comment-page-1/#comment-3113</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercy,

Children under 10 need two shots, given at least 21 days apart.  About two weeks after the second shot, they should gain immunity.  So according to the CDC recommendations your 9-year-old would need the second shot as well.  But as always, I would say ask your doctor.  Blanket recommendations are not as good as speaking to your physician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercy,</p>
<p>Children under 10 need two shots, given at least 21 days apart.  About two weeks after the second shot, they should gain immunity.  So according to the CDC recommendations your 9-year-old would need the second shot as well.  But as always, I would say ask your doctor.  Blanket recommendations are not as good as speaking to your physician.</p>
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		<title>By: MERCY</title>
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		<dc:creator>MERCY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I MOVED FROM LONDON TO THE U.S. FOUR MONTHS AGO,THE THING IS THAT MY CHILDREN WHO RANGE BETWEEN AGES 3 THRU 14 HAVE NEVER HAD A FLU SHOT BEFORE. THEY GOT THEIR SHOTS A MONTH AGO,AND I&#039;VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE 3 OF THEM UNDER 8 WILL NEED SECOND DOSES,WHAT ABOUT MY 9 YEAR OLD? AND HOW EXACTLY DOES THIS WORK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I MOVED FROM LONDON TO THE U.S. FOUR MONTHS AGO,THE THING IS THAT MY CHILDREN WHO RANGE BETWEEN AGES 3 THRU 14 HAVE NEVER HAD A FLU SHOT BEFORE. THEY GOT THEIR SHOTS A MONTH AGO,AND I&#8217;VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE 3 OF THEM UNDER 8 WILL NEED SECOND DOSES,WHAT ABOUT MY 9 YEAR OLD? AND HOW EXACTLY DOES THIS WORK?</p>
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		<title>By: Two Flu Shots Part Two</title>
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		<dc:creator>Two Flu Shots Part Two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] asked Harriet Hall why kids need two flu shots a few posts [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RHA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I&#039;ve read the WHO statement is specific to the adjuvanted vaccine, which most countries are using. Unfortunately, in the USA recent data has shown that a single dose of the unadjuvanted vaccine doesn&#039;t appear to be sufficient.

From a CBC article:
The U.S. National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) released clinical trial data Monday showing that children under 10 didn&#039;t respond well enough to one dose of adjuvant-free H1N1 vaccine to consider them protected against the virus. Based on those data, the U.S. is sticking to its earlier recommendation that children under 10 get two doses of H1N1 vaccine, given at least 21 days apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve read the WHO statement is specific to the adjuvanted vaccine, which most countries are using. Unfortunately, in the USA recent data has shown that a single dose of the unadjuvanted vaccine doesn&#8217;t appear to be sufficient.</p>
<p>From a CBC article:<br />
The U.S. National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) released clinical trial data Monday showing that children under 10 didn&#8217;t respond well enough to one dose of adjuvant-free H1N1 vaccine to consider them protected against the virus. Based on those data, the U.S. is sticking to its earlier recommendation that children under 10 get two doses of H1N1 vaccine, given at least 21 days apart.</p>
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		<title>By: molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were lucky to get the first one (had to pester the office for weeks and then take a day off work to wait in line at 7 AM) and there&#039;s really a very slim chance we&#039;ll be able to get the second, which is sad, but, we had to try. 

Is the WHO&#039;s statement based on the canadian and european versions which are adjuvanted?  That&#039;s what I understood--the US versions are less efficacious at a single dose because of this difference in manufacture.  A real bummer to be sure for those of us who only manage to scare up the first puzzle piece.  Good luck to everyone seeking the shots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were lucky to get the first one (had to pester the office for weeks and then take a day off work to wait in line at 7 AM) and there&#8217;s really a very slim chance we&#8217;ll be able to get the second, which is sad, but, we had to try. </p>
<p>Is the WHO&#8217;s statement based on the canadian and european versions which are adjuvanted?  That&#8217;s what I understood&#8211;the US versions are less efficacious at a single dose because of this difference in manufacture.  A real bummer to be sure for those of us who only manage to scare up the first puzzle piece.  Good luck to everyone seeking the shots!</p>
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		<title>By: RHA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a matter of fudging things in order to stretch supplies, nor is it a &quot;blatant lie&quot;. You are jumping to conclusions about their motives. The WHO is a health organization that makes it&#039;s recommendations after reviewing the science. 

The statement that 1 dose is likely sufficient for children to develop immunity comes from the new data (via GlaxoSmithKline, producer of the Canadian adjuvanted vaccine) that is showing that 100% of children they&#039;ve monitored have shown a positive immune response from a single dose. The children monitored were in the 6-36 month range and had th adjuvanted vaccine, which is recommended for children due to it&#039;s greater effectiveness. My daughter got that shot and is 21 months, so I find this reassuring. I assume that the older a child is the stronger their immune system response - but that&#039;s my assumption and I have no reference for it.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/health/091030/x103002A.html

In any case, I believe the current recommendation by those actually administering the shots is still to get 2 for children under 10.

On a side note, there&#039;s a useful H1N1 vaccination group here if someone hasn&#039;t mentioned it already on this blog (I&#039;m a  bit behind):
http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=161444432417</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of fudging things in order to stretch supplies, nor is it a &#8220;blatant lie&#8221;. You are jumping to conclusions about their motives. The WHO is a health organization that makes it&#8217;s recommendations after reviewing the science. </p>
<p>The statement that 1 dose is likely sufficient for children to develop immunity comes from the new data (via GlaxoSmithKline, producer of the Canadian adjuvanted vaccine) that is showing that 100% of children they&#8217;ve monitored have shown a positive immune response from a single dose. The children monitored were in the 6-36 month range and had th adjuvanted vaccine, which is recommended for children due to it&#8217;s greater effectiveness. My daughter got that shot and is 21 months, so I find this reassuring. I assume that the older a child is the stronger their immune system response &#8211; but that&#8217;s my assumption and I have no reference for it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/cp/health/091030/x103002A.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/cp/health/091030/x103002A.html</a></p>
<p>In any case, I believe the current recommendation by those actually administering the shots is still to get 2 for children under 10.</p>
<p>On a side note, there&#8217;s a useful H1N1 vaccination group here if someone hasn&#8217;t mentioned it already on this blog (I&#8217;m a  bit behind):<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=161444432417" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=161444432417</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had both of my children vaccinated for H1N1 on Friday, and I was told they wouldn&#039;t need a seasonal flu shot again in 2 weeks b/c they received it last year as well.  

However, I am in the same position as the other mothers who have posted, my children will need a second dose of H1N1 in 2 weeks, and will likely not get it.

I was unaware that the first shot merely primed the system, I assumed there would be partial immunity in 10-14 days.  If the first shot primes, but doesn&#039;t give immunity, why is the World Health Organization now saying one dose is sufficient?  It sounds to me like 1 dose isn&#039;t enough, except in situations where there is a pandemic.  

You shouldn&#039;t give parents the impression that their childen are immune when they are not, so that you can help save vaccine for more people.  We should be given accurate information.  Tell us our children aren&#039;t protected, but don&#039;t blatantly lie.  This whole situation is dispicable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had both of my children vaccinated for H1N1 on Friday, and I was told they wouldn&#8217;t need a seasonal flu shot again in 2 weeks b/c they received it last year as well.  </p>
<p>However, I am in the same position as the other mothers who have posted, my children will need a second dose of H1N1 in 2 weeks, and will likely not get it.</p>
<p>I was unaware that the first shot merely primed the system, I assumed there would be partial immunity in 10-14 days.  If the first shot primes, but doesn&#8217;t give immunity, why is the World Health Organization now saying one dose is sufficient?  It sounds to me like 1 dose isn&#8217;t enough, except in situations where there is a pandemic.  </p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t give parents the impression that their childen are immune when they are not, so that you can help save vaccine for more people.  We should be given accurate information.  Tell us our children aren&#8217;t protected, but don&#8217;t blatantly lie.  This whole situation is dispicable!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been told several times that, for the seasonal flu vaccines, the child only needs two doses that first year, then all subsequent years they only need one dose. 

I&#039;m concerned that my kids may not get the second dose, due to shortages as well. They aren&#039;t doing a good job distributing the vaccine in our area, and people have begun to act crazy about it! My mother is an RN, and she volunteered all day yesterday to administer shots and mist. She said that people were upset and angry and there were shouting matches. At the vaccine clinic! One woman demanded that my mom give her a written guarantee that the vaccine wouldn&#039;t make her sick. My mother told her that she assumed the woman had already decided to get the vaccine, or she wouldn&#039;t have come out and stood in line, so maybe she should just go sit down and think it over. So, the woman did. 

People think the vaccine will hurt them in some way, but then they go stand in line for hours to get the vaccine, and antagonize the volunteers when they get there. The whole situation is crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been told several times that, for the seasonal flu vaccines, the child only needs two doses that first year, then all subsequent years they only need one dose. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned that my kids may not get the second dose, due to shortages as well. They aren&#8217;t doing a good job distributing the vaccine in our area, and people have begun to act crazy about it! My mother is an RN, and she volunteered all day yesterday to administer shots and mist. She said that people were upset and angry and there were shouting matches. At the vaccine clinic! One woman demanded that my mom give her a written guarantee that the vaccine wouldn&#8217;t make her sick. My mother told her that she assumed the woman had already decided to get the vaccine, or she wouldn&#8217;t have come out and stood in line, so maybe she should just go sit down and think it over. So, the woman did. </p>
<p>People think the vaccine will hurt them in some way, but then they go stand in line for hours to get the vaccine, and antagonize the volunteers when they get there. The whole situation is crazy!</p>
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