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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmoms.com/2008/10/06/why-you-shouldnt-tell-your-kids-they-are-smart/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve noticed that works very well with dwecks method is by playing video games. Mainly role playing video games. These types of games always have a specific goal that can be fairly hard to accomplish. Kids simply must accomplish this goal in order to advance, once they do they are rewarded with praise and whatever virtual reward they wanted in the first place.  When they fail they always no there will be another chance to succeed, thus reinforcing the notion that it&#039;s ok to fail and hard work will get you to your goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve noticed that works very well with dwecks method is by playing video games. Mainly role playing video games. These types of games always have a specific goal that can be fairly hard to accomplish. Kids simply must accomplish this goal in order to advance, once they do they are rewarded with praise and whatever virtual reward they wanted in the first place.  When they fail they always no there will be another chance to succeed, thus reinforcing the notion that it&#8217;s ok to fail and hard work will get you to your goal.</p>
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		<title>By: KrisV</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmoms.com/2008/10/06/why-you-shouldnt-tell-your-kids-they-are-smart/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>KrisV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea in Dweck&#039;s work is NOT to avoid praise. It&#039;s to avoid praising that paints a picture of a stable trait that the child must then defend. To say &quot;that&#039;s a fantastic question&quot; or &quot;I&#039;m really proud of what you did&quot; or &quot;I admire the way you kept at it even if it was hard&quot; are all reasonable things to do in this model. On the other hand, the research here suggests that praise such as &quot;you are brilliant&quot; or &quot;you&#039;re a genius&quot; will cause kids to veer away from situations where they might not look smart, even if there are lots of opportunities to learn in such situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea in Dweck&#8217;s work is NOT to avoid praise. It&#8217;s to avoid praising that paints a picture of a stable trait that the child must then defend. To say &#8220;that&#8217;s a fantastic question&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m really proud of what you did&#8221; or &#8220;I admire the way you kept at it even if it was hard&#8221; are all reasonable things to do in this model. On the other hand, the research here suggests that praise such as &#8220;you are brilliant&#8221; or &#8220;you&#8217;re a genius&#8221; will cause kids to veer away from situations where they might not look smart, even if there are lots of opportunities to learn in such situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Chanda</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmoms.com/2008/10/06/why-you-shouldnt-tell-your-kids-they-are-smart/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Chanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you should say someone is smart not when they answer a question correctly but when they ask the correct question.  And there are lots of those.  Lots and lots of those.


&quot;What is the corona made of?&quot;  &quot;Wow, I didn&#039;t know you where that smart.&quot;

&quot;How do you know when the brownies are done?&quot;  &quot;That question shows a clear sign of intelligence my friend!&quot;

&quot;How did you get that wrapping paper to fold so neatly?&quot;  &quot;Ah, I see the little gears in your head turning.  Lots of gears.  Wonderful gears.&quot;

&quot;Where do babies come from?&quot;  &quot;It is a perplexing thing isn&#039;t it!  I&#039;m so glad you thought to ask.  It shows your understanding of the puzzle.&quot;

All these comments encourage the questions.  Encourage the curiosity.  It is the QUESTIONS not the ANSWERS that makes us brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you should say someone is smart not when they answer a question correctly but when they ask the correct question.  And there are lots of those.  Lots and lots of those.</p>
<p>&#8220;What is the corona made of?&#8221;  &#8220;Wow, I didn&#8217;t know you where that smart.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;How do you know when the brownies are done?&#8221;  &#8220;That question shows a clear sign of intelligence my friend!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;How did you get that wrapping paper to fold so neatly?&#8221;  &#8220;Ah, I see the little gears in your head turning.  Lots of gears.  Wonderful gears.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Where do babies come from?&#8221;  &#8220;It is a perplexing thing isn&#8217;t it!  I&#8217;m so glad you thought to ask.  It shows your understanding of the puzzle.&#8221;</p>
<p>All these comments encourage the questions.  Encourage the curiosity.  It is the QUESTIONS not the ANSWERS that makes us brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My nephew is a very bright kid.  He has a very IQ....and was tested because he was getting into a lot of trouble in his class.  He jumped a class and now they don&#039;t seem to have the same problem.  Most of my children are pretty much average.  My nephew used to come over and show off how smart he was and everyone told him that he was and that he was pretty much a genius.  Only one of my children was his age and in the same class....he told me that all the other kids were mean to him and didn&#039;t like him cause he would brag all the time about how he was soooo much smarter than the rest of them.  

Now...first this caused hard feelings with kids that he could have made friends with by bragging and making them feel lesser of a person than him.  Second....it took a negative impact on him.  He really rebelled and tried to meanto the other kids cause they didn&#039;t want to play with him.  

I am sorry but I think it is important to praise your children and also discipline them when they have done wrong....but I don&#039;t think it is a good idea to make them feel like they are better than everyone else.....because technically noone is better than anyone!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My nephew is a very bright kid.  He has a very IQ&#8230;.and was tested because he was getting into a lot of trouble in his class.  He jumped a class and now they don&#8217;t seem to have the same problem.  Most of my children are pretty much average.  My nephew used to come over and show off how smart he was and everyone told him that he was and that he was pretty much a genius.  Only one of my children was his age and in the same class&#8230;.he told me that all the other kids were mean to him and didn&#8217;t like him cause he would brag all the time about how he was soooo much smarter than the rest of them.  </p>
<p>Now&#8230;first this caused hard feelings with kids that he could have made friends with by bragging and making them feel lesser of a person than him.  Second&#8230;.it took a negative impact on him.  He really rebelled and tried to meanto the other kids cause they didn&#8217;t want to play with him.  </p>
<p>I am sorry but I think it is important to praise your children and also discipline them when they have done wrong&#8230;.but I don&#8217;t think it is a good idea to make them feel like they are better than everyone else&#8230;..because technically noone is better than anyone!!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennie M., I agree with your observation, and maybe that&#039;s because we teach in the same college.

I also teach in high schools in California, and I&#039;ve noticed a lot of kids don&#039;t know grammar.  They don&#039;t seem to learn it the way I learned it.  Instead, the curriculum in California schools seems to focus on trying to teach kids to feel good about themselves so they will be free to express their thoughts.  Even teachers sometimes don&#039;t know some basics of Standard English, and they have made comments to me like, &quot;Well, I don&#039;t want to get hung up on those details and make the kids feel bad about themselves.&quot;

I have also taught ESL to adults, and the same philosophy seems to prevail in that line of work.

I drill grammar.  I think kids and adults feel good about themselves when they learn to express themselves well.  There&#039;s a positive way to point out what needs to be improved, and I do believe writers feel better about their accomplishment when they&#039;ve truly accomplished a clear piece of writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennie M., I agree with your observation, and maybe that&#8217;s because we teach in the same college.</p>
<p>I also teach in high schools in California, and I&#8217;ve noticed a lot of kids don&#8217;t know grammar.  They don&#8217;t seem to learn it the way I learned it.  Instead, the curriculum in California schools seems to focus on trying to teach kids to feel good about themselves so they will be free to express their thoughts.  Even teachers sometimes don&#8217;t know some basics of Standard English, and they have made comments to me like, &#8220;Well, I don&#8217;t want to get hung up on those details and make the kids feel bad about themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have also taught ESL to adults, and the same philosophy seems to prevail in that line of work.</p>
<p>I drill grammar.  I think kids and adults feel good about themselves when they learn to express themselves well.  There&#8217;s a positive way to point out what needs to be improved, and I do believe writers feel better about their accomplishment when they&#8217;ve truly accomplished a clear piece of writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just ran across this article on praise while looking for online parenting group that follow Alfie Kohn. It&#039;s more of what was posted here but I really liked the following quote:

&quot;Eventually, in my final stage of praise withdrawal, I realized that not telling my son he was smart meant I was leaving it up to him to make his own conclusion about his intelligence. Jumping in with praise is like jumping in too soon with the answer to a homework problem—it robs him of the chance to make the deduction himself.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/news/features/27840/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Power (and Peril) of Praising...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just ran across this article on praise while looking for online parenting group that follow Alfie Kohn. It&#8217;s more of what was posted here but I really liked the following quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Eventually, in my final stage of praise withdrawal, I realized that not telling my son he was smart meant I was leaving it up to him to make his own conclusion about his intelligence. Jumping in with praise is like jumping in too soon with the answer to a homework problem—it robs him of the chance to make the deduction himself.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://nymag.com/news/features/27840/" rel="nofollow">The Power (and Peril) of Praising&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rational Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Love of Learning</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmoms.com/2008/10/06/why-you-shouldnt-tell-your-kids-they-are-smart/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Rational Moms &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Love of Learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] V. has presented some good evidence for why you shouldn&#8217;t tell your kids they&#8217;re smart.  There&#8217;s more to encouraging a love of learning than just praise, though (for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: KrisV</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmoms.com/2008/10/06/why-you-shouldnt-tell-your-kids-they-are-smart/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>KrisV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, moderation is an excellent principle, and of course empty praise is never going to be a good thing. But I should point out that the quote from Dweck arises after children got *one* instance of praise from a researcher they didn&#039;t know. While I imagine that a parent doing it 10 times a day would have much larger effects, the data here (and in Dweck&#039;s many other studies) are convincing to me.  I urge everyone to examine the evidence for herself. Absolutely, be skeptical, in the best sense of that word, and check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, moderation is an excellent principle, and of course empty praise is never going to be a good thing. But I should point out that the quote from Dweck arises after children got *one* instance of praise from a researcher they didn&#8217;t know. While I imagine that a parent doing it 10 times a day would have much larger effects, the data here (and in Dweck&#8217;s many other studies) are convincing to me.  I urge everyone to examine the evidence for herself. Absolutely, be skeptical, in the best sense of that word, and check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Wednesday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Wednesday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps this is just not as big a problem for us in Europe but to this new research I say &quot;well, duh!&quot;.

The Mom101 approach- calling your children smart, beautiful, talented or even perfect every now and then- and recognising when to dial down the praise and find other ways to help keep your children confident and motivated are surely not mutually exclusive.  The adage &quot;everything in moderation&quot; is probably not an oversimplification in this instance.

Quite possibly, problems arise when parents start to follow a system or method of praise or motivation as the result of reading one particular study or childcare book.  

I would be sceptical of anything truly counter-intuitive to my feelings as a parent.  Perhaps the wording in the opening paragraph should read &quot;there are substantial risks to telling your child that he or she is smart 10 times a day, every day&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this is just not as big a problem for us in Europe but to this new research I say &#8220;well, duh!&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Mom101 approach- calling your children smart, beautiful, talented or even perfect every now and then- and recognising when to dial down the praise and find other ways to help keep your children confident and motivated are surely not mutually exclusive.  The adage &#8220;everything in moderation&#8221; is probably not an oversimplification in this instance.</p>
<p>Quite possibly, problems arise when parents start to follow a system or method of praise or motivation as the result of reading one particular study or childcare book.  </p>
<p>I would be sceptical of anything truly counter-intuitive to my feelings as a parent.  Perhaps the wording in the opening paragraph should read &#8220;there are substantial risks to telling your child that he or she is smart 10 times a day, every day&#8221; <img src='http://rationalmoms.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>chanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read about this study on another blog I follow (&lt;a href=&quot;http://quomodocumque.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/punished-by-praise/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), and I&#039;ll tell you essentially the same thing I said there:

If the goal is to get the kids to love learning, show them that you love learning.  When your kid shows you a page of dinosaurs s/he has drawn, listen and ask questions as your kid explains it.  Then help find some related info (in books or on the Internet) to share.  Praise (for work or acheivement or whatever ) is secondary.

It&#039;s the same with reading and many other things: if you want your kids to enjoy doing something, then show them you enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read about this study on another blog I follow (<a href="http://quomodocumque.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/punished-by-praise/" rel="nofollow">here</a>), and I&#8217;ll tell you essentially the same thing I said there:</p>
<p>If the goal is to get the kids to love learning, show them that you love learning.  When your kid shows you a page of dinosaurs s/he has drawn, listen and ask questions as your kid explains it.  Then help find some related info (in books or on the Internet) to share.  Praise (for work or acheivement or whatever ) is secondary.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same with reading and many other things: if you want your kids to enjoy doing something, then show them you enjoy it.</p>
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